A couple of minutes later, Arthur March returned from one of the other rooms in his house with the pen that he needed to write down Farris’s, aka Bobby Givings’s, information. Arthur then gave his mail address to Farris, too. From the way that the conversation was going, the detectives, as well as Tom Thurman, could see that Arthur March had swallowed the deception hook, line, and sinker. They would soon be realizing the fruits of their labor in a case that had taken nearly ten years to clear. Because of all the familial elements involved on both sides, the story seemed almost Shakespearean with its plots, egos, and complexities.
Farris: Well, uh, I guess I’ll get back in contact with you, and, uh, maybe next week sometime, just to let you . . .
March: Whenever you need me. You know this time or a little later. I’m always here after seven.
Farris: Okay, after seven. ’Cause I’m gonna have to go—I’m gonna have to get . . .
March: And I’m here from seven at night to six-thirty in the morning.
Farris: Okay.
March: I leave the house at six thirty-five . . .
Farris: Okay.
March: . . . or six-forty.
Farris: ’Cause I’m gonna have to go and, uh, I’m gonna have to get started on gettin’ this instrument. And, I hope I’m gonna be able to get me a silencer, ’cause I want everything to be as quiet as possible.
March: Well, you know, I . . .
Farris: You know.
March: I’m not tellin’you how to do your job.
Farris: Okay.
March: I’m your support and you’ve got—you’re covered. Your ass—your ass is covered.
Farris: Okay. And, uh, what, uh—you know, I’m gonna keep up with this surveillance, and, uh, you know, I’m gonna find the best route possible. And what I want to do is, I’m gonna run it by you before I, you know, actually do it, just to get your . . .
March: Okay. The best way is to get to either Laredo. . .
Farris: Uh-huh.
March: . . . or that’s the way I would come.
Farris: Okay.
March: I would go to San Antonio.
Farris: Yeah.
March: San Antonio to either Laredo or Brownsville, and then get to Guadalajara.
Farris: Okay.
March: If you go to Laredo or New Laredo, and you can walk across the border.
Farris: Yeah.
March: Uh, there’ll be no sign of you leaving. You’ll need—do you have a passport or some (inaudible)?
Farris: No, I don’t have—I’ve never been out of the country. You know, I’ve . . .
March: All right, you need then, uh, either a driver’s license or a birth certificate to get across.
Farris: Well, yeah, me and Perry, we discussed that part, and, uh . . .
March: Okay, well, he knows that as well as I do.
Farris: He’s good. Perry’s real good. But, he’s told me that, you know, you was real good yourself. And, uh . . .
March: Well, I’m just old.
Farris: . . . you know it’s, well . . .
March: And not as quick as I used to be, you understand?
Farris: No, not necessarily.
March: I’m seventy-eight, but I’m about in the physical shape of, uh, I would say fifty-five or sixty.
Farris: Probably me too.
March: (laughs)
Farris: But, uh, I’ll, uh, you know, I’m really . . .
March: And I’m—once, once you get here . . .
Farris: Uh-huh.
March: And I can almost say once you get across the border and on that bus . . .
Farris: Uh-huh.
March: Uh, you’re, you’re in good shape. Just keep the little wife, you understand?
Farris: Yeah. I’m, I’m . . .
March: And if you bring her . . .
Farris: I’m lookin’ forward to—I’m lookin’ forward to comin’ (inaudible).
March: You’re here and you’re covered.
Farris: Yeah. That, that, that’s . . .
March: I got a three-bedroom house. You’ll, you know, just be an old friend.
Farris: Well, you know, me and Perry, we talked about, you know, goin’ into business, too, you know, once he’s out. And, uh . . .
March: Well, once he’s out, he probably could use you real well. We can . . .
Farris: Yeah.
March: You know, we’ll—by bein’ here with me, and from that point on . . .
Farris: Yeah.
March: . . . you know, you’ll make your own decision.
Farris: Well, yeah, he, uh . . .
March: But, uh, you know, we, we can work you into the community.
Farris: But, uh, you know, I’m—this is, this is my shot of, of gettin’rid of my troubles, too, if you understand what I’m sayin’.
March: Okay, well, once you get across that border, we just have to—Perry’ll tell you the best way to do, once you get to the border . . .
Farris: Yeah.
March: . . . how to get across . . .
Farris: How, how, how will . . .
March: . . . what you do.
Farris: How is Perry doin’? Is he okay?
March: Well, I talked to him today, he sounded a lot better.
Farris: Yeah.
March: Uh, and, uh . . .
Farris: But he, he does know that me and you’ve made contact, right?
March: Oh yeah.
Farris: Good.
March: Yeah, I talked to him this morning.
Farris: Good, I’m . . .
March: Talked to him at ten-thirty, to be exact.
Farris: Yeah, good.
March: Carmen and I talked to him, you know.
Farris: How’s Carmen?
March: But I only, I only let him know that I had contact—that we had had contact.
Farris: Well, good. He—that, that’s all you needed to let him know. He’s . . .
March: That’s right. And then, uh, you follow his instructions.
Farris: Uh-huh.
March: Because he’s a lot smarter than I am. And I hate to admit it.
Farris: Yeah, well, I mean he, you know, he told me that, you know, if I had, you know, some problems with anything, that I could contact you and, you know, that, you know, he told me that, you know, first of all, he said the Colonel is a stand-up guy.
March: And I work for the Mexican Army, so I have some (inaudible).
Farris: Well, good. You know, that makes me feel better, too.
March: I’ve been workin’ for ’em for twelve years, so.
Farris: Yeah. What uh . . .
March: See, the cover is there, once you get here.
Farris: Uh-huh. It’s a—I heard there’s a lot of good women down there and stuff?
March: No problems. I got more doctors than I know what to do with, because that’s what I do for a livin’.
Farris: Really?
March: Yeah . . . you’re bringin’dogs across.
Farris: Is the Doberman’s name Onie?
March: Yeah.
Farris: (laughs) Okay.
March: Uh, if you bring a dog across, make sure you get the papers before you get to Mexico.
Farris: Oh, yeah, well, I have her papers. I have her papers.
March: Okay, make sure then that Perry says they’re the right ones.
Farris: Okay. Uh, when do you think you’ll hear from Perry again?
March: On Tuesday, ten-thirty in the morning.
Farris: Okay, well, if I haven’t talked to you by then, just tell him that, uh . . .
March: That I’ll hear from you sometime next week.
Farris: Yeah, and that, uh, that I’ve found the car that I wanted. And, uh, I’ll probably be pur-chasin’ it here soon.
March: Okay, you gonna take one or two out? Farris: Excuse me?
March: Just one or the two?
Farris: Two. It’s got to be two.
March: Okay. Okay.
Farris: Yeah. I’m not gonna . . .
March: You know, always watch for that kid.
Farris: Yeah. Well, well, well, see, I’m gonna—you know the thing about doin’ that is, is, actually, I’m gonna have to do one at a time, but . . .
March: Yeah, that’s right.
Farris: But, see I, I . . .
March: It’s an abso . . . that’s your best bet.
Farris: Yeah.
March: And the best time—I don’t know his schedule now, ’cause it’s been a long time earlier.
Farris: Well, I’m keepin’up with that.
March: ’Cause he’s usually up and around real early.
Farris: Yeah, well, about seven-thirty.
March: But I don’t know what they’re doin’ with the kids. You know, I know they’re not . . .
Farris: Okay, well, they’re takin’the kids to school every morning. And it’s . . .
March: Well, that’s—I think if they do that . . .
Farris: You know, it’s, uh . . .
March: Uh, uh, you’d have to probably make it after that. They’re . . .
Farris: Oh yeah, of course. Well, see, I’m gonna tell you this real quick before we go. What I planned on doin’ is like the little joggin’ thing I was tellin’you about? Uh . . .
March: Yeah.
Farris: I was just, you know, like two times this week, uh, the wife—I’m not, I don’t even know her name. She . . .
March: Carolyn.
Farris: Okay, when, when she’s . . .
March: Carolyn. She’s the smart one.
Farris: Okay, well, I’m gonna—well, you know, she’s not too smart, because what she does when she comes back, she walks around this place. And see what I’m . . .
March: Well, she doesn’t—she thinks there is nobody gonna touch her.
Farris: Well, she’s wrong.
March: And she has a built-in protection. Now, you should know that. Perry can explain it to you.
Farris: Uh-huh.
March: It’s called the Jewish Mafia.
Farris: Yeah, well . . .
March: And she’s the queen.
Farris: Well, I’m gonna tell you that, you know, they’re dealin’ with a little bit of power theirself. And, uh . . .
March: I know, but you have to understand . . .
Farris: Yeah.
March: They are very self-secure.
Farris: Uh-huh.
March: Because they, they do—they’ve got money.
Farris: Uh-huh.
March: They use it. And they only got one thing. They want those kids.
Farris: Yeah, well.
March: They could care less about Perry.
Farris: That’s not gonna happen. They, they’re, they might’ve won this little battle, but they’re not gonna win this war. And, uh . . .
March: Well, we’re excited to work on getting the kids and we’ll start . . .
Farris: Well, that, that . . .
March: . . . by Tuesday.
Farris: Uh-huh.
March: Those (inaudible), the legalwise realization of getting my kids back is, uh, will be full-blown.
Farris: Okay, good. But, uh, but what I’m . . .
March: All right?
Farris: Okay, but what I was gonna say is that, uh, I’m just basically gonna force her in the house and, uh, I’m gonna, you know, do her there and I’m gonna wait on Mr. Lawrence to come back. And I’m actually gonna look him in the eye. You know.
March: Well, I don’t know if he—once he gets out of the house, I mean, I don’t know his schedule.
Farris: Yeah. Well, well, I don’t, I don’t know (inaudible).
March: (inaudible)
Farris: Well, see, I do know this. He’s not workin’ too much at his office. He’s stayin’ at this apartment a lot. But he does come and go. But I, you know, I’m not just . . .
March: I can’t tell you because . . .
Farris: Yeah.
March: When I knew him and when I was with, uh, with him, he—around the house, and once it’s morning, he worked at that house.
Farris: Yeah.
March: And he usually goes to Knoxville . . .
Farris: Um-hm.
March: . . . uh, once a week. Uh, to my knowledge, he’s supposed to have some lady over there.
Farris: Yeah.
March: But I never followed it up, I mean, I never . . .
Farris: Yeah, well, I’m . . .
March: It wasn’t my business.
Farris: You know, I’m not stickin’ around too much, ’cause I don’t want to get noticed out that way. But I mean . . .
March: Yeah. No, no, you’re right. We’re, we’re . . .
Farris: So far, so good.
March: Now what they’re—they got the kids in the condo with ’em?
Farris: Yeah. Yeah, the kids are stayin’there. Well, well, like, there’s, uh, I think it’s some type of community center, maybe, that they take the kids to a lot after school. And, and like . . .
March: See, I don’t—is that the Jewish Community Center?
Farris: I—maybe so. I’m, I’m, you know, I, I don’t . . .
March: Just check around. It’s near . . .
Farris: Yeah.
March: It’s near the—where their house used to be. It’s within . . .
Farris: Yeah. Well, their house . . .
March: . . . eight or ten blocks.
Farris: There’s some kinda work goin’ on there, and, uh, I know that Lawrence goes there once a day at least to, to, you know, I guess supervise what’s goin’ on. And I don’t know, I don’t know how much longer . . .
March: (inaudible)
Farris: . . . that this is gonna be goin’ on, but, you know, they . . .
March: You know, I don’t know.
Farris: He does have a pattern.
March: But keep your eye on your back.
Farris: Yes, sir.
March: Watch for the kid.
Farris: Yes, sir. Yeah.
March: Don’t—I mean, he’s a nothin’.
Farris: Uh-huh.
March: He’s gay and he’s never gonna bother you.
Farris: Yeah.
March: But he’s there.
Farris: Okay. I, well, I still haven’t seen him. I, you know, I’ve done a little bit of . . .
March: Make sure you reconnoiter, you know, the . . .
Farris: Yeah. Well, I’ve, I’ve . . .
March: . . . the opposition well.
Farris: I’ve done a little bit of checkin’ since the last time I talked to you about this guy. And, uh, you know, I haven’t been able to see a picture of him or nothin’ like that, but I do know that he works out of someplace in Washington. You know.
March: That’s the kid.
Farris: Yeah, yeah.
March: Yeah, he works for a congressman who’s gay and he’s [his] semi-lover.
Farris: (laughs)
March: You know they switch back and forth.
Farris: Yeah.
March: And I don’t know what he’s got in Nashville. It’s been a long time.