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Authors: Mike Evans

MDE:

In the letter the president of Iran brought to President Bush—most of it was a preaching letter—it seemed he was trying to convert him. Does he really have a goal or an intention of trying somehow to convert Christians to his beliefs?

Mr. Zuckerman:

Well, it’s hard for me to understand the way that man thinks, but there was an interview with him on
60 Minutes
. I mean, I’m always amazed that we provide a platform for these people to preach their message; in a way that is kind of dismaying, but that’s the nature of our system.
And, basically, what he was clearly trying to do there—and considering where he was coming from and what his views are, he did, I thought, quite well—he was basically trying to say, “Oh, we’re not such bad guys. We just want the same things as you do, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.” But, in fact, they do wish to eject us from huge parts of the world, and they will use whatever weapons they have at their fingertips to do that.
And, as I have said, they have almost an unlimited supply of people who are willing to die as what they call martyrs in the service of whatever that vision is. They believe they will have a permanent life in heaven—in their version of heaven—and so will their families, if they do that, and they’re willing to do that—and, as I have said, it is not absolutely clear how we are going to cope with that. We certainly are going to have to do a lot more than we are doing today.

MDE:

How influential are the forces of bigotry and oil economics in this battle?

Mr. Zuckerman:

Well, you know, this is the thing that I have to say is one of the most upsetting issues that I think this country has to face. With oil prices going up the way they have, we are funding the very people who are our enemies. We are funding Iran. We are funding the Saudis. We are funding even the Russians, who are sort of very, very strange friends.
All of these countries who possess this oil are using it in one form or another—I mean, certainly Iran—in effect, to support exactly the kinds of activities. They’re funding all these terrorist groups, they give money to Hezbollah, they give weapons to Hezbollah, they buy weapons, training, whatever it takes—and where did it come from?
I can assure you that Russia would have been much more amenable supporting us when oil was at twenty dollars a barrel, and they had a huge international debt, than it is at seventy-five dollars a barrel, when they have one hundred billion in the bank. The same thing is true of Iran. Iran had a huge international debt. Saudi Arabia had a huge international debt. Now, they have—Iran has—who knows? Forty-five to fifty billion in the bank? Saudi Arabia has a couple of hundred billion dollars in the bank.
And, at this point, they think the world is their oyster and they don’t have to really accommodate the kinds of things that we need them to accommodate in terms of having a civil world in which people live and let live.

MDE:

This is the last question. With the Iran crisis, we appear to be heading for a showdown. If, God forbid, this country does not comply with economic and diplomatic concessions, do you think that the United States—exhausting all other remedies—would have to use the military option?

Mr. Zuckerman:

The military option could never be taken off the table because if it is taken off the table, we’re going to have to go in stages. The UN resolution, which has been passed by the Security Council, calls for economic sanctions, and that may be the first step to show them that we mean what we say.
But, ultimately, at some point, if they continue to threaten the civilized world and the Western world and they do not wish to take into account how critical it is that they not have this capacity for nuclear weapons, that is going to become a major decision that’s going to be on the table of some—on the desk of some president of the United States, either this one or the next one.
In my judgment, it’ll be this one because within the next two and a half years, there’s no doubt, they will deliver the capacity internally to develop nuclear weapons, as did, in fact, a country like North Korea, which doesn’t have nearly the population, the intellectual sophistication, or the education of a lot of people that you have in Iran.
It’s not impossible to do. We’ve seen North Korea do it. North Korea is a country that is much more easily containable. They are selling their nuclear technologies and their missile technology. They sold a lot of their missile technologies to Iran, and Iran then used that to develop their own domestic missile technologies. Now they’re using whatever they have been able to buy from A.Q. Khan of Pakistan—who is selling this all over the world—or North Korea. They’re using that to develop their own domestic nuclear capabilities. This is a disaster.
I interviewed Putin in Russia when we had just gone to war in Iraq, and he said, “Why Iraq?” He said, “Iran is the real danger.” Well, we’re going to find out whether Russia supports us, and for a long time they were in a very ambiguous position. I think they finally realized how dangerous this is for them.
China, I think, also understands it—but the only forum in which we can make progress in these areas, unfortunately, is the United Nations—and the United Nations gives all these countries vetoes. We must get them to join us, and that’s just a basic fact of life.

Appendix J
 
 
A 21-DAYS TUDY OF IRAN (PERSIA), IRAQ (BABYLON),
AND ISRAEL IN BIBLICAL PROPHECY
 
 

 
 
 
 

 
 

 
Notes

I
NTRODUCTION

1.
CNN.com, “Giuliani Rejects $10 Million From Saudi Prince,” October 12, 2001, http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/10/11/rec.giuliani.prince/index.html (accessed January 22, 2007).

2.
George W. Bush, “Address to the Nation,” January 10, 2007, as quoted by the
New York Times,
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/10/world/middleeast/10cnd-ptext.html?ex=1169701200&en=9e8ad4c46b84713e&ei =5070 (accessed January 23, 2007).

3.
We will look at this again in chapter three, where the exact quote appears.

4.
Joseph Farah, “U.S., Israel to Attack Iran Nukes ‘Before April,’” G2 Bulletin at WorldNetDaily.com, January 23, 2006, http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48430 (accessed January 21, 2007).

5.
Daniel Pipes, “How the West Could Lose,”
Jerusalem Post
, December 27, 2006, http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1164881991915&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull (accessed January 23, 2007).

6.
Winston Churchill, “We Shall Fight on the Beaches” speech before the House of Commons, June 4, 1940, as quoted by the Churchill Centre, http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=393 (accessed January 22, 2007).

7.
Winston Churchill, “The Years the Locusts Have Eaten,” in
The Second World War,
vol. 1, as quoted in a speech by Newt Gingrich, printed in the
Atlanta-Journal Constitution,
as posted on the Newt.org e-Community forum “How to Deal With Iran?” http://www.newt.org/forum/topic.asp?fi=20000001&catId=30000001&ti=400000369 (accessed January 23, 2007).

8.
Abraham Lincoln, “Proclamation Appointing a National Fast Day,” March 30, 1863, as quoted by Abraham Lincoln Online, “Speeches and Writings,” http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/fast.htm (accessed January 21, 2007).

C
HAPTER
O
NE
: A P
ROPHETIC
S
TORM
G
ATHERS

1.
Walid Shoebat, personal interview with Mike Evans, August 26, 2006.

2.
Iran Chamber Society, “Cyrus the Great,” Historic Personalities, http://www.iranchamber.com/history/cyrus/cyrus.php (accessed January 23, 2007).

3.
The Encyclopedia Britannica
, vol. 6 (1958), 940; as quoted by Wayne Jackson, “Cyrus the Great in Biblical Prophecy,” ChristianCourier.com, September 28, 2000, http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/read/cyrus _the_great_in_biblical_prophecy (accessed December 19, 2006).

4.
Wikipedia.org, s.v. “History of Iran,” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Iran (accessed December 8, 2006); and Ehsan Yarshater, “Persia or Iran,”
Iranian Studies,
vol. 12, no. 1 (1989), as excerpted by the Circle of Ancient Iranian Studies in “Persia or Iran? When ‘Persia’ Became ‘Iran,’” trans. Abbas Ferzamfar, 1998, http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Iran/persia_or_iran.htm (accessed December 8, 2006).

C
HAPTER
T
WO:
R
ECALIBRATING
A
MERICA’S
M
ORAL
C
OMPASS

1.
Alan Dershowitz, personal interview with Mike Evans, August 18, 2006. For more excerpts of this interview, see Appendix H.

2.
Wikiquote.org, s.v. “Golda Meir,” http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Golda_Meir (accessed January 23, 007).

3.
George Washington, farewell address, as quoted by the Avalon Project, “Washington’s Farewell Address 1796,” http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/washing.htm (accessed February 2, 2007).

4.
John Adams, letter to the officers of the First Brigade of the Third Division of the militia of Massachusetts, October 11, 1798, as quoted by Wikiquote.org, http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Adams (accessed January 23, 2007).

5.
Natan Sharansky,
The Case for Democracy: The Power of Freedom to Overcome Tyranny and Terror
(New York: PublicAffairs, 2004), 40–41.

6.
See Proverbs 27:10.

7.
Stephen Goode, “Bush Brings Faith Into Full View,”
Insight on the News,
May 11, 2004, http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_2004_ May_11/ai_n6145022 (accessed January 23, 2007).

8.
Scott Stearns, “Bush Calls for Greater Religious Tolerance in U.S.,”
Voice of America
, February 7, 2002, http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2002-02/a-2002-02-07-1-Bush.cfm (accessed December 21, 2006).

9.
Debbie Daniel, “Life Is Just One Grand Sweet Song, So Start the Music!”
American Daily,
June 10, 2004, http://www.americandaily.com/article/779 (accessed January 23, 2007).

10.
Ronald Reagan, inaugural address, January 20, 1981, as quoted in Ronald Reagan Presidential Archives, University of Texas, http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/1981/12081a.htm (accessed December 21, 2006).

11.
Dinesh D’Souza, “Purpose: What It Was All About,”
National Review Online
, June 8, 2004, http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/dsouza200406080824.asp (accessed January 24, 2007).

12.
Whittaker Chambers, “Letter to My Children,” foreword to
Witness,
as quoted by University of Missouri-Kansas City School of Law, http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/hiss/chambersletter.html (accessed December 21, 2006).

13.
Ibid.

14.
Ibid.

15.
Ronald Reagan, “The Evil Empire,” remarks at the annual convention of the National Association of Evangelicals, March 8, 1983, as quoted by American Rhetoric, http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/ronaldreaganevilempire.htm (accessed December 21, 2006).

16.
Ariel Sharon, personal interview with Mike Evans.

17.
Ronald Reagan, remarks at an ecumenical prayer breakfast in Dallas, Texas, August 23, 1984, as quoted in Ronald Reagan Presidential Archives, University of Texas, http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/1984/82384a.htm (accessed January 24, 2007).

18.
The White House, “State of the Union Address of the President to the Joint Session of Congress,” news release, January 29, 2002, http://www.c-span.org/executive/transcript.asp?cat=current_event&code=bush_admin&year=2002 (accessed November 13, 2006).

19.
Joseph Goebbels, “The Jews Are Guilty!”
Das Reich,
November 16, 1941, as quoted by Calvin College, German Propaganda Archive, http://www.calvin.edu/academiccas/gpa/goeb1.htm (accessed January 24, 2007).

20.
Alexander Solzhenitsyn, “A World Split Apart,” address at Harvard Class Day afternoon exercises, June 8, 1978, http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/solzhenitsyn/harvard1978.html (accessed December 21, 2006).

21.
Lee Edwards, “The Reagan Doctrine,” the Heritage Foundation, http://www.heritage.org/Research/reagan_edwards13.cfm (accessed December 28, 2006).

22.
George W. Bush, remarks at the swearing-in ceremony for Tom Ridge as director of the Office of Homeland Security, October 8, 2001, as quoted in the American Presidency Project, ttp://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/print.php?pid=62592 (accessed December 21, 2006).

C
HAPTER
T
HREE:
W
HAT THE
F
UTURE
H
OLDS

1.
The White House, “President Discusses War on Terrorism,” news release, November 8, 2001, http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/11/20011108-13.html (accessed December 20, 2006).

2.
The White House, “Press Briefing by Tony Snow,” news release, October 19, 2006, http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/10/20061019-1.html (accessed January 24, 2007).

3.
James A. Baker III and Lee H. Hamilton, et al.,
The Iraq Study Group Report,
December 6, 2006, http://www.usip.org/isg/iraq_study_group_report/report/1206/iraq_study_group_report.pdf (accessed January 24, 2007).

4.
Aaron Klein, “Terrorists Rejoicing Over New Iraq ‘Plan,’” WorldNetDaily.com, December 6, 2006, http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53269 (accessed December 13, 2006).

5.
Ibid.

6.
Ibid.

7.
Brietbart.com, “Ahmadinejad: Britain, Israel, US to ‘Vanish Like the Pharaohs,’” December 20, 2006, http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/12/20/061220094102.ixs3bo81.html (accessed December 26, 2006).

8.
InsightMag.com, “Baker Wants Israel Excluded From Regional Conference,” December 5, 2006, http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/Baker_1.htm (accessed December 13, 2006).

9.
Ibid.

10.
Peter W. Galbraith,
The End of Iraq
(New York: Simon and Schuster, 2006), 206–207.

11.
Numbers on these distributions vary with the source but stay in roughly this range. See, for example, Wikipedia.org, s.v. “Iraq,” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq (accessed November 9, 2006); David Gritten, “Long Path to Iraq’s Sectarian Split,”
BBC News
, February 25, 2006, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4750320.stm#su (accessed November 10, 2006); and Central Intelligence Agency, “The World Fact Book: Iraq,” https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/iz.html (accessed November 10, 2006).

12.
Joshua Holland, “Bush’s Petro-Cartel Almost Has Iraq’s Oil,”
AlterNet
, October 16, 2006, http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/43045/ (accessed November 12, 2006).

13.
Charles Nash, interview with Mike Evans, August 16, 2006. For more excerpts from this interview, see Appendix F.

14.
Daniel Pipes, “In Iraq, Stay the Course—But Change It,”
New York Sun
, October 24, 2006, http://www.danielpipes.org/article/4066 (accessed November 11, 2006).

15.
The White House, “Press Conference by the President,” news release, October 25, 2006, http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/10/20061025.html (accessed November 11, 2006).

16.
WashingtonPost.com,
“Ahmadinejad’s Letter to Bush,” May 9, 2006, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/09/AR2006050900878_pf.html (accessed January 24, 2007). For the complete letter, see Appendix A.

17.
The Online NewsHour, “Plan Floated to Divide Iraq Along Ethnic Lines,” October 24, 2006, http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/july-dec06/iraq_10-24.html (accessed November 12, 2006).

18.
Christopher Bodeen, “Al Qaeda in Iraq Claims It’s Winning War,” Associated Press, November 10, 2006, http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/11/10/D8LAC4OG1.html (accessed November 12, 2006).

C
HAPTER
F
OUR:
T
HE
C
ENTERS OF
G
RAVITY

1.
Moshe Ya’alon, keynote speech in Dallas, Texas, June 28, 2006.

2.
Charles Nash, personal interview with Mike Evans, August 16, 2006. For more excerpts of this interview, see Appendix F.

3.
The White House, “President Bush Announces Major Combat Operations in Iraq Have Ended,” news release, May 1, 2003, http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/05/20030501-15.html (accessed January 25, 2007).

4.
Con Coughlin, “How the 45-Minute Claim Got From Baghdad to No. 10,”
Telegraph,
July 12, 2003, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/12/07/wirq107.xml (accessed January 25, 2007).

5.
Ibid.

6.
Thomas McInerney and Paul Vallely,
Endgame: The Blueprint for Victory in the War on Terror
(Washington DC: Regnery Publishing, Inc., 2004), 41.

7.
Wikipedia.org, “Iraq Resolution,” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Resolution_to_Authorize_the_Use_of_United_States_Armed_Forces_Against_Iraq (accessed December 2, 2006).

8.
Wikipedia.org, “American Popular Opinion on Invasion of Iraq,” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_popular_opinion_on_invasion_of_Iraq (accessed January 25, 2007).

9.
Ayman El-Amir, “Ensnaring Saddam,”
Al-Ahram Weekly Online,
July 11, 2002, http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2002/594/op2.htm (accessed December 3, 2006).

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