Unknown Pleasures: Inside Joy Division (22 page)

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Authors: Peter Hook

Tags: #Punk, #Personal Memoirs, #Music, #Biography & Autobiography, #Genres & Styles, #Composers & Musicians

We pulled over.

‘What are we going to do?’

‘We’ve got to fucking go,’ said Rob. ‘We’ve got a fucking gig.’

I said, ‘Fuck off. I can’t drive through London like that, with no exhaust. It sounds like a fucking helicopter.’

He was going, ‘No, no, it’s fine, fine – we’ll fix it when we get to Dave Pils’ house.’

They all piled back in the Cortina and we had to drive all the way down the motorway, which wasn’t too bad, actually, apart from the fact that me, Terry and Twinny were completely deaf by the time we got there. We drove through North London to Walthamstow, parked up, and I said to Dave, ‘Listen, we’re going to have to get it fixed.’

‘Kwik Fit round the corner,’ he said.

I didn’t have any money, of course, and looked at Rob, who said, ‘Well I’ll lend you the money to fix the van.’


Lend
us the money? I can’t afford to pay for the fucking thing myself.’

So he gave me the cash and I went to Kwik Fit and got it sorted – £13 for a new exhaust – and while I was out they’d had a group meeting at Dave Pils’ house. Waited till I was out, the rotten bastards, and had a group vote.

‘We’ve decided that we’re not paying for it,’ said Rob when I got back. ‘We’ll lend it to you but you’ve got to give us the money back.’

I said, ‘Right, from now on you can hire a van because I’m not fucking paying to drive you twats about when you’re keeping the gig money and I have to fork out. Fuck off, the lot of you.’

I stormed out, didn’t I. Went for a walk round the block, calmed down and when I got back to Dave Pils’ house they were all sat in the living room.

Rob said, ‘It’s all right, Hooky, we’re going to pay for it.’ So it was sorted. I didn’t have to pay back the money. I was still pissed off, and would pretty much stay pissed off until 13 August, when . . . Well, we’ll come to that.

In the meantime, we had an album to record. Sheesh!

‘He was looking for that spark’

Strawberry Studios in Stockport is offices now, but for years it was the major studio in the North West. If you go to where it is in Waterloo Road they have one of those blue plaques up with a list of all the legendary artists who recorded there: Paul McCartney, Neil Sedaka, Stone Roses and the Syd Lawrence Orchestra.

No mention of us, the bastards. Even though that was there we went in April 1979 to record our debut album (and, later, to record ‘Transmission’ and ‘Love Will Tear Us Apart’, among others). Tony Wilson always gave massive credit to 10CC for putting Strawberry in Stockport. The way he saw it, they’d reinvested the money they made from their music back into Manchester. He was right. Thanks to them we had one of the country’s best studios on our doorstep, and we were pretty excited about it: our first foray into twenty-four-track recording, with the ability to overdub, in four-star luxury. We were once again being produced by Martin, who was using all sorts of great gear. The AMS, of course, as well as the Marshall Time Modulators (Marshall Time Wasters, the engineers called them), which he used a lot on the guitar, especially on some of Bernard’s more . . .
economical
playing, shall we say. So to be honest it felt like such a thrill. Like taking the next big step up. We were all raring to go and happy and had enthusiasm to burn.

If only I’d known then what I know now I’d have savoured making our first album – because by the time we got to the second one there were already divisions beginning to form and we were very worried about Ian. Martin was having a hard time with the drugs so it got very fraught and very stressful. Then, on
Movement
, the first New Order album – well, we were fucked from that album on as far as I’m concerned. Whatever record we were making from that point on, there was always some elephant in the room. Whether it was Ian’s death, or business matters, personal disputes, the Haçienda sucking the life out of us or Factory going to the wall, there was always something. Always an elephant. Should have given it a catalogue number.

There was no elephant on
Unknown Pleasures
, though. It turned out to be the only album we made where we were focused, and relaxed, and enjoyed the wonderfulness of being young and in a band and going in to record your debut album on your new label with a producer who had mad hair and looked like a wizard and spoke in riddles.

He told us we needed forty minutes’ worth of music for the album so we presented him with a batch of songs. Of those we recorded sixteen, ten of which were used on the album, all recorded at the weekend. We all had jobs in the week. No advance, remember. And it was cheaper at weekends. Even cheaper if we worked at night, which suited Martin down to the ground, of course, because he liked to work at night. So the band would arrive at the studio straight after work on Friday, record until seven in the morning, then return later in the evening on the Saturday and work until seven in the morning. We’d be going home at seven on Monday morning, trying to escape before the cleaner arrived and started Hoovering. Even now the sound of a Hoover goes right through me. We recorded for the first two weekends and Martin mixed the third weekend. So that was two days to record
Unknown Pleasures
.
Closer
took three weeks.
Movement
took about two months and
Waiting for the Siren’s Call
, New Order’s last, took three years.

Usually when a band went into the studio, back in the late seventies anyway, you’d have one eye on the clock and be concentrating on not messing around. The accepted way of doing this was to get the band in the studio and get them sounding as live as possible. There was no such thing as click tracks or backing tracks in those days. It was all recorded live. So for the most part what we used to do was go in and run through all of the tracks in one go, with Ian in the room – he’d do the vocal in isolation later, when we had the take. Now, normally when you record a band you have a microphone on each of the instruments, and each records to a track on the master tape, but you get a bit of leakage from one microphone to another, so you’ll get a bit of the bass down the guitar mic and so on. If you want to feature, say, the guitar more prominently, then you turn up the guitar track, but because of the sound spill the other instruments come up, too. Martin hated that.

Martin being Martin wanted the live feel of the band playing but without sacrificing the clarity of the instruments. So he set us up to get
maximum separation, and the way he did that was to record us separately, especially the drums. Martin wanted them isolated so he could work on the drum sound, which of course he ended up doing a lot, creating that very clean, precise-sounding, almost clinical drum sound that became his trademark.

Of course, it was only much later, when we heard the finished product, that we knew what he was going on about. What we heard at the time was Martin and Chris Nagle, his engineer, constantly going on and on about keeping everything clean and separate, right from the start, the very opposite of what we wanted. The first song we played him was ‘She’s Lost Control’. He loved the drums on it, he said; then said it would be great if they were separate. Next thing we knew he was getting Steve to take his kit apart. Off came the snare and the toms. Martin wanted zero spill from the mics so he had to record each drum individually. Of course that meant that Steve was rarely playing his whole kit. He was allowed to play only one drum at a time and ghosted the others. So what happened was that we ran through ‘She’d Lost Control’ live, then Martin recorded the drum track, we took the kit apart and Steve played his parts again – one drum at a time. It made everything very laborious and really hard for Steve, because he didn’t have a click track to keep time to, so he kept speeding up and slowing down. Steve had to learn how to play the kit, but play it like a drum machine. He once said that his ambition wasn’t to be a drum machine but Martin demanded the separation. It even got to the point where Martin was taking the drums themselves apart, taking the tightening springs out, because he said they squeaked. Only he could hear it.

Of course it had to be done in a matter of hours. If you went into the studio now and wanted to recreate the sound of
Unknown Pleasures
it would probably take you years. But we were young and Martin was pushing us, and it had to be done double-quick, so it was a constant battle between Martin’s desire to experiment and the time we had left in the studio. We worked very quickly. None of that farting about – all that happened later. For
Unknown Pleasures
we’d go in with our list of songs. We’d set up the instruments, sound-check, ‘Right, “‘Disorder’”.’

We’d play ‘Disorder’.

‘Is that all right, Martin?’

‘No, didn’t like it. Try it slower but faster. Meaner but kinder.’

We’d look at each other like,
Oh, do fuck off
.

We’d play ‘Disorder’ again.

‘How was that, Martin?’

‘That was better, yeah, a bit on the buttery side but fine; we’ll go with that one.’

So then we had our master. Ten backing tracks, ready for editing, manipulating and adding to. Next Martin would record the drums, and often he’d get Barney to put some heavier guitar on top, too; he was a big fan of layering the recordings. He’d do the vocals last, right at the end, so they were clean without any spill from the instruments. When it came to the vocals Tony suddenly became very vocal, suggesting strongly that Ian listen to Frank Sinatra’s
Greatest Hits
so he could incorporate a bit of Frank’s crooner style into the vocal lines. This made us all laugh and, while I didn’t hear a direct influence on Ian’s vocal style, I was quite surprised to see a few lyrical references of Frank’s in the lyrics. Notably ‘I Remember Nothing’ with its ‘We were strangers’ refrain. Strangers in the night, anyone?

The band had its first studio row, actually, the first of many over the years, because Barney insisted on using infrared headphones and adjusting the levels to fit them, even though it fucked up the levels for the rest of us, plus we fell out a couple of times over songs that he didn’t like and was reluctant to play. Martin had encouraged us to write a couple more in the studio so we had a better choice for the L P. Me and Steve jammed out ‘From Safety to Where’ and ‘Candidate’. Ian then worked on vocals. Barney didn’t like that song either and his reluctance to play on it was marked. Martin had to turn the tape over so the songs were backward. He liked them then and played. Martin span it over so the tracks had backward guitars and a few fed-up-sounding EEEKS! Apart from that, it was a pretty peaceful atmosphere, which was mainly down to Martin, of course, because he wasn’t yet the tyrant he later became.

Back then he smoked a bit of dope but he wasn’t into heroin, as far as I know. To be honest, I don’t think he had the money for it. His drug problem really only became a problem for us when it came to
Movement
, when he refused to start the session until we brought him a gram of coke. ‘Where the fuck are we going to get a gram of coke from?’ We’d never even seen cocaine. (At that point, I mean. We’d certainly put that right later.)

‘I’m not fucking starting until you bring me a gram of Columbia’s finest,’ he insisted, and then sat there for hours with his arms folded while the rest of us tried to persuade him to begin the session. After phoning God knows how many people, Rob laid his hands on some and brought it into the studio.

‘Right,’ said Martin, handing it over to Chris Nagle, ‘You sort that out, Christopher, and I’ll get started.’

What a twat
, we thought. All that fucking time wasted. Never is the saying ‘time is money’ truer than when you’re in the studio. The average cost then was £1 per recording track per hour (so, for example, twenty-four-track: £24 per hour). Fair enough, I suppose; he was struggling. It’s a well-known fact that he took Ian’s death hard. I mean, recording ‘Ceremony’ and ‘In a Lonely Place’ was easier because Ian had left the lyrics and the vocal lines for those two, so it was only our vocal efforts that amused and frustrated him. But doing
Movement
he found the album tough going from the start, and he let us know it. It was like that great car with the wonky wheel again. Martin was constantly having to fix New Order and he wasn’t in good enough physical or mental shape to do it. He was off his peak. We all were.

He hated that we used to bug the shit out of him, me and Bernard especially. One on either side. Always on his case. Questioning everything. ‘Why are you doing that?’ ‘Isn’t it too quiet?’ ‘Isn’t it too loud?’ ‘More bass!’ ‘More guitar!’ ‘More everything.’ Ian was much more easygoing, and perhaps that’s why he was Martin’s favourite. But maybe Ian was more easy-going because there was only so much Martin could to the vocals, whereas he could do a lot to the instruments. And he did a lot to the instruments. Which was, after all, what he was there to do. As a sound-manipulator Martin was in a class of his own, and the atmosphere, clarity and depth he gave to the songs is still astonishing.

He was lucky, though. Like I know myself, when you’re producing a band and they come in with great songs you rub your hands with glee, because you can have such fun with a great song. But when someone brings you a poor or average song you have to start changing it and you’re thinking,
Can we write a better middle eight? Can we improve the chorus?
That’s not as much fun. It can be really hard work.

Martin had fun with Joy Division because the songs were so fantastic. He didn’t have as much fun with
Movement
because, while the music was fantastic, we were lacking confidence on the lyrics and
vocals. Struggling to do them to his satisfaction. We were feeling our way in the dark. He knew that and it pissed him off. And, along with fires and infestations of rats, the one thing you don’t want in a studio is a pissed-off Martin Hannett because he was ruthless, a right dictator at times. Derek Brandwood, who ended up managing him towards the end of his career, once said that you could put him in a studio with a band with who’d been the best of friends for forty years and within five minutes Martin would have them at each other’s throats. So true.

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