What Will It Take to Make A Woman President?: Conversations About Women, Leadership and Power

WHAT WILL

IT TAKE

TO MAKE A

WOMAN

PRESIDENT?

Conversations About Women, Leadership and Power

MARIANNE SCHNALL

SEAL PRESS

What Will It Take to Make a Woman President?

Copyright © 2013 Marianne Schnall

Published by

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All rights reserved. No part of this book may be reproduced or transmitted in any form without written permission from the publisher, except by reviewers who may quote brief excerpts in connection with a review.

All quotes and material included in this book are from Marianne Schnall’s exclusive interviews, most of which were conducted specifically for this book. Some individual quotes were excerpted from interviews that originally appeared in publications including
CNN.com
,
Feminist.com
,
The Huffington Post
, Omega Women’s Leadership Center, and Women’s Media Center; some also appeared in
Daring to Be Ourselves: Influential Women Share Insights on Courage, Happiness, and Finding Your Own Voice
. Portions of the Maya Angelou and Kirsten Gillibrand interviews also appeared at
The Huffington Post
and
Feminist.com
. Portions of the Marianne Williamson interview also appeared at
The Huffington Post
.

ISBN: 978-1-58005-497-3

Library of Congress Cataloging-in-Publication Data

Schnall, Marianne.

What will it take to make a woman president? / by Marianne Schnall.

p. cm.

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Women—United States—Interviews. 2.
  
Women political activists—United States. 3.
  
Women presidential candidates—United States. 4.
  
Politicians—United States—Attitudes. 5.
  
Women—United States—Attitudes.

I. Title.

HQ1161.S378 2013

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Cover design by Faceout Studio, Kara Davison

Interior design by
meganjonesdesign.com

Distributed by Publishers Group West

To my incredible daughters, Jazmin and Lotus, and all
the other extraordinary girls and women around the world

May your sense of self-worth, abilities, dreams,
and opportunities be limitless

NOTE TO READERS:

More interviews with politicians, public officials, celebrities, journalists, writers, and other thought leaders can be found online at
womanpresidentbook.com
, and in the e-book edition of this book
.

CONTENTS

INTRODUCTION

MELISSA HARRIS-PERRY

JENNIFER SIEBEL NEWSOM

PAT MITCHELL

DONNA BRAZILE

MARY FALLIN

JOY BEHAR

ANA NAVARRO

MAYA ANGELOU

MICHAEL KIMMEL

BARBARA LEE

CLAIRE MCCASKILL

OLYMPIA SNOWE

GAVIN NEWSOM

NANCY PELOSI

DON MCPHERSON

SOLEDAD O’BRIEN

SHERYL SANDBERG

JESSICA VALENTI

MARIANNE WILLIAMSON

MELISSA ETHERIDGE

NICHOLAS KRISTOF

GLORIA STEINEM

ANITA HILL

KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND

ELIZABETH LESSER

KATHY NAJIMY

ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON

MARIE WILSON

KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON

GLORIA FELDT

COURTNEY E. MARTIN

RACHEL SIMMONS

DIANE VON FURSTENBERG

CAROL GILLIGAN

ELEANOR SMEAL

MARSHA BLACKBURN

ROBIN MORGAN

MARY MATALIN

JODY WILLIAMS

CATHY MCMORRIS RODGERS

AMY RICHARDS

ILEANA ROS-LEHTINEN

SANDRA FLUKE

CELINDA LAKE

JULIE ZEILINGER

STEPHANIE SCHRIOCK

CAROL JENKINS

CECILE RICHARDS

ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

INTRODUCTION

T
HIS BOOK STARTED
with a question. When Barack Obama was first elected,
my family and I were talking about how wonderful it was
to have our first African American president. My then-eight-year-old daughter, Lotus, looked at me through starry eyes and deadpanned this seemingly simple, obvious question: “Why haven’t we ever had a woman president?” It was a really good question, one that, despite having spent two decades running the women’s nonprofit website
Feminist.com
and writing about women’s issues, I found difficult to answer. But it is these types of questions, often out of the mouths of babes, that can wake us up out of a trance. Many inequities have become such a seamless part of our history and culture that we may subliminally begin to accept them as “just how it is” and not question the “why” or explore the possibility that circumstances could be different.

It does seem a bit crazy when you think of it: When so many other nations have women presidents, why doesn’t the United States? Margaret Thatcher was elected prime minister of Great Britain three times. Argentina, Iceland, the Philippines, Nicaragua, Ecuador, Finland, Ireland, Liberia, Chile, and South Korea have elected female heads of state. Yet the United States, presumably one of the most progressive countries in the world, lags dismally behind. We have finally elected an African American president; when will we celebrate that same milestone for women?

The closest we have come to having a woman president was Hillary Clinton’s nearly successful primary campaign against Barack Obama in
2008. In Obama, she had a formidable opponent, one who also broke through important barriers. Though it was a tight, fascinating, and at times contentious race, Obama prevailed. As Hillary observed in her powerful concession speech, “Although we weren’t able to shatter that highest, hardest glass ceiling this time, thanks to you, it’s got about eighteen million cracks in it.” She added, speaking to the emotional crowd gathered at Washington’s National Building Museum, “And the light is shining through like never before, filling us all with the hope and the sure knowledge that the path will be a little easier next time. That has always been the path of progress in America.”

Fast-forward a few years later to the 2011 primary season, when I was talking to an editor at CNN’s In America division about writing a piece for them. I was about to cover the Women’s Media Center awards, where I would be interviewing people like Gloria Steinem, Jane Fonda, Sheryl Sandberg, Arianna Huffington, and others, so I asked CNN if there were any questions in particular they wanted me to ask. They said they were interested in the attendees’ impressions of why women have gained such little momentum in Washington just four years after having a near presidential contender, and what we can do to get more women into the pipeline of political leadership. Taking that one step further, I decided to add a question related to my daughter’s query by asking, “What will it take to make a woman president?” That article wound up on the CNN home page and received hundreds of comments, both positive and negative. The popularity of the article made me realize how important and timely this topic really was, and that it was worth exploring even further.

So here it is: my journey to get answers to some of these questions through speaking to some of the most influential journalists, activists, politicians, and thought leaders of today. Why haven’t we had a woman president? What will it take? And why is it important? While I use a woman president as a symbol, this book is also about the broader goal of
encouraging women and girls as leaders and change agents in their lives, their communities, and the larger world. It also explores the many changing paradigms occurring in politics and in our culture, which the recent election seems to confirm. I hope to spotlight these positive shifts, as well as identify where the remaining obstacles and challenges are, in hopes that by looking at these themes from so many sides and perspectives, we can move closer to meaningful and effective solutions.

Certainly, we need to imagine not only a world where a woman can be president, but one in which women are equally represented in Congress and many other positions of leadership and influence in our society. While it was history-making to have elected twenty women to the Senate in 2012, 20 percent is still far from parity. Women are 50 percent of the population, yet they occupy just a fraction of that in elected office. The United States currently ranks seventy-seventh on an international list of women’s participation in national government. And the numbers are not much better in the corporate world: a meager twenty-one of the Fortune 500 CEOs are women, and women hold about 14 percent of executive-officer positions and 16 percent of board seats. Women are in only about 5 percent of executive positions in the media. Across the board, women are rarely adequately represented at the tables where important decisions are being made.

Yet everywhere I look today, very promising campaigns and projects are emerging to help women attain positions of influence and leadership. A few years ago, I wrote an article about then–Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s Women in Public Service Project, whose ambitious goal is global, political, and civic leadership of at least 50 percent women by 2050. I also interviewed Senator Kirsten Gillibrand about her Off the Sidelines Project, which is “a nationwide call to action to get more women engaged . . . to enter political life and be heard on political issues.” And Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg’s book,
Lean In
, has certainly helped to spark a
nationwide conversation and movement and an important debate over the factors impacting women’s leadership and advancement in the workplace.

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